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Post by UICJohn on Nov 15, 2013 13:17:45 GMT -6
I have to admit I'm glad that the Chancellor is on her way out. Now, she has stayed on for one more year but that's it if keeps correctly?
I relate this to students I new at UIC - some loved UIC and had a great time while others just thought it was "just UIC". I personally loved going there and want the best for UIC and I want leadership to feel the same. I do t want someone to come in and think of us as a school in UIUCs shadow. We can and SHOULD be much more than that. And if UIC improved that would only improve the U of I as a whole!
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Post by circle70 on Nov 15, 2013 15:38:42 GMT -6
Hopefully the new chancellor will be an advocate for Athletics. Allen-Meares appeared to have absolutely no interest in, or see the value of, a successful athletic program.
It's been proven time and again that successful sports teams have a trickle down benefit to the university as a whole. This can be achieved even in the absence of a big-time football program. Mid-major men's basketball teams that have had success, gained national publicity that translated into, among other things, increased enrollment and increased donor contributions (Butler, Hampton, VCU, to name a few).
In light of annual giving being down 26% for the last year, an advocate for Athletics should at least be considered for the position of the next UIC Chancellor.
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Post by Big D on Nov 15, 2013 18:03:31 GMT -6
The question is, does everything keep the name "University of Illinois"? If so, can't say I'm happy with that.
As for the Chancellor, obviously Easter is not thrilled with her performance with that dodge of the performance question. I really can't say whether she did well or not, but under her watch, we got booted from the CIC, lost control of the medical center, had our facilities renamed, didn't get into the AAU, and according to the article posted by insideuic, she failed miserably at the job she was primarily brought in to do...fund-raise. I mean 25%+ is a big decrease. Now was she directly responsible for most of this stuff? Doubtful....but as they say, blame goes to the top.
Hire the best person for the job...man or woman...white or black...end of story. UIC seems to favor diversity (and sometimes i question whether we're sacrificing quality in the name of diversity). But when it comes to choosing the head of the university, we need the best we can get...with one exception...please, for the love of all that's holy, it better not be someone with a UIUC degree. I mean, could there be a bigger slap in the face?
Our next chancellor absolutely has to be a champion for athletics, among many other things.
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Post by uicc79 on Nov 16, 2013 7:57:33 GMT -6
I too would prefer that the next chancellor not be a UIUC alum, however, I think one of the best chancellors that UIC has had in the past was James J. Stukel. I believe all three of his degrees, BS, MS, PhD, were from UIUC. I thought he was a great advocate for UIC, one of the best, plus he went on to become President of the U of I system. In my opinion, he didn't forget UIC when he became President, in fact, I thought he seemed to favor UIC.
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Post by Chuck A on Nov 22, 2013 5:25:06 GMT -6
Obviously the next Chancellor has to have strong fund-raising skills, come from a strong academic and athletic institution and has to have shown growth at their previous institution (whether it be academic programs, athletic prowess or building projects on campus).
I think we enjoyed a lot of success under Broski. That guy was so into athletics! Sylvia Manning was a good one as well. By the way, did President Easter hire Allen-Meares?
I forgot to mention Stukel. He indeed was an excellent chancellor. I remember seeing him on campus one day during the "building, renovating and greening" of UIC and he said to me "the campus is looking great, isn't it?" He said it with such pride and happiness. I would see him just walking the campus sometimes and mingling with the students. As President of the system, he did seem to favor UIC.
Man, who dropped the ball on Allen-Meares?
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Post by uicc79 on Nov 22, 2013 12:53:22 GMT -6
I believe Allen-Meares was hired by B. Joseph White, the President prior to Easter. He was forced out by the admissions scandal.
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Post by circle70 on Nov 22, 2013 17:31:11 GMT -6
Follow-up to my post a week ago about hoping the new chancellor is an advocate for Athletics:
In order for UIC to be competitive at the highest level (challenging for the HL championship and NCAA bids), we need to be competing for players on a "level playing field" with the rest of the conference. And that means doing what everybody else does: making academic concessions to get the players that want to come to your school but don't stand a chance to meet the current academic standards.
We have a problem when top notch mid-major players from Chicago ignore UIC and STAY IN THE HORIZON LEAGUE but go to Green Bay and Cleveland State and others. I'm sure many of these players would love to stay home and play in front of friends and family but they don't stand a chance of meeting UIC's current academic standards.
If we make concessions for athletes, the reputation of UIC as a quality educational institution will not suffer. Other schools, with much better academic reputations than ours, have seen the light. Stanford, for one, has become a top 10 football program in the last few seasons for one reason: they started making academic concessions to get quality players.
I'm not saying that we should give players "A's" for classes that they don't attend. I'm saying to restore the traditional "jock majors" like Physical Education and give these guys a chance to succeed.
If we don't, then the only players that we will be able to recruit are the good student, good citizen guys who can't play quality basketball.
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Post by uicval on Jan 29, 2014 8:53:54 GMT -6
Allen-Meares was a joke and hindered UIC academically. I've heard a lot of professors complaining about her demands of focusing on diversity and other garbage instead of focusing on their research. I really hope the next one focuses on academics and improving the campus followed by sports to increase student pride and involvement in the school.
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Post by Big D on Jan 29, 2014 19:06:07 GMT -6
Allen-Meares was a joke and hindered UIC academically. I've heard a lot of professors complaining about her demands of focusing on diversity and other garbage instead of focusing on their research. I really hope the next one focuses on academics and improving the campus followed by sports to increase student pride and involvement in the school. I understand this post is going to come off as racist, sexist, you name it....but it's simply reality. Is anyone really surprised that a black woman in the most powerful position at UIC would focus on helping minorities? Professors have no room to complain...she was hand selected by a panel of professors, admins, etc. Did these people not have access to her resume? www.uic.edu/home/Chancellor/images/Paula_Allen-Meares_CV.pdfAnyone's resume that includes the words "black", "african", "minority", etc. as many times as in PAM's, is going to be looking out for their own in a position of power...and if the panel is too obtuse and/or naive to see that, then UIC needs to reconsider who they have heading the search next time around. Let's be honest...most women don't give a rat's ass about sports....PAM has not shown any interest at all....I mean she didn't even know her AD was interviewing at Milwaukee. If it's going to take hiring a male chancellor to get some attention paid to improving athletics, then that's what we need to do. I'm sure UIC wanted to be cool and hire someone different....a minority woman to run the show at one of the most diverse schools in the nation. How many black female chancellors are there in the nation (excluding mostly black schools)? She may have very well been the very best candidate, but I think UIC sometimes makes decisions based on politics and with diversity in mind...Jimmy Collins....Howard Moore....do we have to have a black man from the inner city running the show here? It clearly hasn't helped with recruiting. Was a white proven coach even considered? Boy, I'm off on a tangent. But don't be surprised if UIC doesn't try to make a "splash" with the next chancellor hire either....you know, like the first asian transvestite to run a university. Just pick the damn best person please.
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Post by Chuck A on Feb 10, 2014 11:10:47 GMT -6
I understand this post is going to come off as racist, sexist, you name it....but it's simply reality. Is anyone really surprised that a black woman in the most powerful position at UIC would focus on helping minorities? Professors have no room to complain...she was hand selected by a panel of professors, admins, etc. Did these people not have access to her resume? www.uic.edu/home/Chancellor/images/Paula_Allen-Meares_CV.pdfAnyone's resume that includes the words "black", "african", "minority", etc. as many times as in PAM's, is going to be looking out for their own in a position of power...and if the panel is too obtuse and/or naive to see that, then UIC needs to reconsider who they have heading the search next time around. Let's be honest...most women don't give a rat's ass about sports....PAM has not shown any interest at all....I mean she didn't even know her AD was interviewing at Milwaukee. If it's going to take hiring a male chancellor to get some attention paid to improving athletics, then that's what we need to do. I'm sure UIC wanted to be cool and hire someone different....a minority woman to run the show at one of the most diverse schools in the nation. How many black female chancellors are there in the nation (excluding mostly black schools)? She may have very well been the very best candidate, but I think UIC sometimes makes decisions based on politics and with diversity in mind...Jimmy Collins....Howard Moore....do we have to have a black man from the inner city running the show here? It clearly hasn't helped with recruiting. Was a white proven coach even considered? Boy, I'm off on a tangent. But don't be surprised if UIC doesn't try to make a "splash" with the next chancellor hire either....you know, like the first asian transvestite to run a university. Just pick the damn best person please. Big D, it doesn't matter how the post came off...this country is still based on freedoms...and that includes the freedom of speech. Anyhow, without knowing the mindset of those in the hiring process of Allen-Meares, Collins or Moore, I agree in general with your statements. It is sad that most women could care less about sports when it is a pretty big contributing factor to the overall University as was mentioned earlier. I don't have the time nor inclination to do the fact-finding, but I wonder what the increase in enrollment and/or donations were to the University each time the Flames went to the NCAA tournament compared to the average, non-NCAA years.
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Post by Big D on Mar 5, 2014 23:12:28 GMT -6
For those of you that don't get the UIC Alumni magazine, they had a story in the most recent issue about how Architecture, Design, and Art students are in the process of redesigning UIC's logos as part of a grad-level design course, just like those that did it 20+ years ago to realize our current logos. It doesn't say which ones are being redesigned, and there's no guarantee UIC will adopt them, but you never know. Spring 2014 is when the designs are going to be created.
Survey results showed that older alumni favored the current 3-letter "UIC" mark. Others expressed the desire to design based on our position in the U of I system, with "Illinois" emphasized. Others want to emphasize the "Chicago" part. Current students think we need an update.
I'm curious to see what they come up with because is there really much you can do? Can't use an "I"...would be like UIUC....can't use Chicago...would be confused with U of C. The athletic logo is already bad ass...gonna be tough to improve on it.
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Post by nickl on Apr 10, 2014 18:25:02 GMT -6
For those of you that don't get the UIC Alumni magazine, they had a story in the most recent issue about how Architecture, Design, and Art students are in the process of redesigning UIC's logos as part of a grad-level design course, just like those that did it 20+ years ago to realize our current logos. It doesn't say which ones are being redesigned, and there's no guarantee UIC will adopt them, but you never know. Spring 2014 is when the designs are going to be created. Survey results showed that older alumni favored the current 3-letter "UIC" mark. Others expressed the desire to design based on our position in the U of I system, with "Illinois" emphasized. Others want to emphasize the "Chicago" part. Current students think we need an update. I'm curious to see what they come up with because is there really much you can do? Can't use an "I"...would be like UIUC....can't use Chicago...would be confused with U of C. The athletic logo is already bad ass...gonna be tough to improve on it. Big D, I did see that and wonder what the end result will be. I also noticed (I think for the first time but correct me if I'm wrong) that on page 37, UIF is spelled out "University of Illinois Foundation at Chicago and has a Chicago address. Typically it is just UIF with the Urbana info (at least that's what I get in the mail when I donate). I did hear that they are creating a call center in Chicago so when we all get the weekly call looking for money it will not be from Urbana students (217 area code). Maybe they're starting to separate things a bit.
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Post by cravinmelon on Sept 7, 2015 18:19:15 GMT -6
I can confirm they are creating a call center using UIC students for fundraising so hopefully no more calls from the 217 with Urbana kids doing their best to raise funds for a campus that hard as they may try are not UIC invested. This should be a good step in the right direction. I am a bit mortified that over the summer the Alumni Association vacated its offices on 5th floor of Student Center East/CCC. To me this is an abandonment of the campus. The publications staff for UIC Alumni Magazine moved to the Illini Center in the Loop. That makes some sense but to pull all alumni relations officers from campus is a travesty. Advancement is moving from South Campus offices into the 5th floor space. Scuttlebutt is that they along with the advancement people assigned to the individual colleges will pick up the slack. I don't see this as having a happy outcome. If you no longer have any alumni relations officers cultivating current students and young alumni with tradition and networking how are you going to build an alumni base conditioned to give that is connected to their campus. Those 5th floor offices were amazing. UIAA once had a huge staff, you should see some of the old flow charts. It has been left to wither on the vine for years. The positive news is that the UIC Alumni Magazine staff has been placed in charge of a consolidated effort to produce all three University of Illinois Alumni Magazines, UIC, UIS and yes even the "Evil Empire" UIUC comes under this joint command. Might be the first time ever something like this has occurred.
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