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Post by UICJason on Feb 13, 2005 21:15:29 GMT -6
UICjason, this isnt necessarily about censorship on this board, just about censorship in general... music, video games, books? what you have been saying is that you're against censorship in these areas and others? about not adding up: has nothing to do with following the party ideologies... i was just saying that you're big for minorities and their rights yet you vote democrat and you said you were a hardcore liberal yet you're for gun control? now this isn't an attack, so please dont take it that way, i just think those are just weird combinations that dont really match up.... in my opinion, it's just like saying (random example) you're prowar but you're a pacifist... I don't want there to be any censorship at all...except when it comes to public airwaves that parents can't really control. I don't think there needs to be killing and violence on network television and old-fashioned radio. As for cable, movies, internet and other things that don't fly through the air for free, no holds barred. I believe in age requirements to buy certain items, but once a person turns 18, there doesn't really need to be censorhip of any sort. Maybe we're thinking differently when we talk about minorities. I'm talking about minority cultures, of course, but also women, GLBT, the handicapped, etc. I think the Democratic party does much more for these underrepresented groups than does the republican party. This includes things like affirmative action, gay marriage, many women's issues, etc. Democrats also support greater taxation which they use for public progams that often benefit members of those minorities. I am for that. As for gun control, that's just a personal thing. I don't like guns. I think they're dangerous and I believe they need more control. I don't think that there is any need to be protected from a militant government these days, and I don't think that guns really do much to protect the average citizen. Now being realistic, I understand that guns will get into the hands of criminals no matter what so gun control is only hurting the honest citizen. I do understand that, and I can't pretend to know what to do about that. My thoughts on this are a whimsical idealogy moreso than a realistic thought process. My questions for you are of the same ilk. You find my thoughts to be a bit contradictory...why? Why do you not feel that voting democratic and looking out for minorities are consistent? I don't think I've ever met anyone who felt thay way. Thoughts on censorship, etc... |
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Post by NewFoundGlory on Feb 13, 2005 22:56:23 GMT -6
I don't want there to be any censorship at all...except when it comes to public airwaves that parents can't really control. I don't think there needs to be killing and violence on network television and old-fashioned radio. As for cable, movies, internet and other things that don't fly through the air for free, no holds barred. I believe in age requirements to buy certain items, but once a person turns 18, there doesn't really need to be censorhip of any sort. Maybe we're thinking differently when we talk about minorities. I'm talking about minority cultures, of course, but also women, GLBT, the handicapped, etc. I think the Democratic party does much more for these underrepresented groups than does the republican party. This includes things like affirmative action, gay marriage, many women's issues, etc. Democrats also support greater taxation which they use for public progams that often benefit members of those minorities. I am for that. As for gun control, that's just a personal thing. I don't like guns. I think they're dangerous and I believe they need more control. I don't think that there is any need to be protected from a militant government these days, and I don't think that guns really do much to protect the average citizen. Now being realistic, I understand that guns will get into the hands of criminals no matter what so gun control is only hurting the honest citizen. I do understand that, and I can't pretend to know what to do about that. My thoughts on this are a whimsical idealogy moreso than a realistic thought process. My questions for you are of the same ilk. You find my thoughts to be a bit contradictory...why? Why do you not feel that voting democratic and looking out for minorities are consistent? I don't think I've ever met anyone who felt thay way. Thoughts on censorship, etc... I do believe that you are big on civil rights, definatly not questioning that anymore. What i am saying though, is the democratic party (not saying the republican party has) is a joke when it comes to civil rights, the average american, working class, labor unions, , etc etc , and on top of that , the founding democrats (jackson, etc) would be turning in their graves if they saw the status of their present "democratic-republican" party they created.... you have the democratic party that is suppossed to be against poverty, and the candidate john kerry telling how he's going to help the middle class? what about the lower class? you mention the lesser of two evils earlier.... you were right on w/that one... over the tens and tens of years, the republicans and democrats have continuously been morphing into one another that it's almost a joke now how close they really are.... think about it... it's one big republicrat party and all the corporations literally own the candidates.... if you saw the debates earlier this year (if you can call that debating) there wasn't much to be said.. theres so many minorities/union members/environmentalists/lower class citizens out there it's a wonder why most of them give there vote away to the democratic candidate and have been getting nothing in return.... both parties just elect a token representative to drag the minority vote along........ as for the gun control thing... i see that you find that obsolete now, which is cool.... i personally don't ...it's a basic right written down in the constitution.... it was meant for those times when there's wasn't order and there was a lot of crime... one had to protect their homes and the clause was also included so if the govnt ever became tyrannical they could overthrow them and create a new one.... now is that something thta's going to happen soon? no, but the british didn't start cross the line over night also.... it's just a basic you can't get rid of.. |
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Post by NewFoundGlory on Feb 13, 2005 23:05:04 GMT -6
I don't want there to be any censorship at all...except when it comes to public airwaves that parents can't really control. I don't think there needs to be killing and violence on network television and old-fashioned radio. As for cable, movies, internet and other things that don't fly through the air for free, no holds barred. I believe in age requirements to buy certain items, but once a person turns 18, there doesn't really need to be censorhip of any sort. Maybe we're thinking differently when we talk about minorities. I'm talking about minority cultures, of course, but also women, GLBT, the handicapped, etc. I think the Democratic party does much more for these underrepresented groups than does the republican party. This includes things like affirmative action, gay marriage, many women's issues, etc. Democrats also support greater taxation which they use for public progams that often benefit members of those minorities. I am for that. As for gun control, that's just a personal thing. I don't like guns. I think they're dangerous and I believe they need more control. I don't think that there is any need to be protected from a militant government these days, and I don't think that guns really do much to protect the average citizen. Now being realistic, I understand that guns will get into the hands of criminals no matter what so gun control is only hurting the honest citizen. I do understand that, and I can't pretend to know what to do about that. My thoughts on this are a whimsical idealogy moreso than a realistic thought process. My questions for you are of the same ilk. You find my thoughts to be a bit contradictory...why? Why do you not feel that voting democratic and looking out for minorities are consistent? I don't think I've ever met anyone who felt thay way. Thoughts on censorship, etc... and censorship.... it's one of those things, once they start censoring, they don't stop... and we can see it already..... the fcc has practically shut down the airwaves.... you have professors getting fired ....and our freedom of speech has been taking hits for awhile... you no longer can protest near the white house.. lol they make you protest like a mile down the road.... what a joke.... everything is censored now.... cd's/movies/video games, and the list goes on..... i dont know what happen to that thing called "PARENTS".. we've given the govnt too much regulation in our everyday affairs... ever since the New Deal, we've seen a progression in government involvement ... |
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Post by UICJason on Feb 16, 2005 21:50:27 GMT -6
I honestly agree with pretty much everything you're saying in all honesty, except the gun argument. That's just a difference of opinion though...nothing much to debate.
I honestly don't understand why there's not more of a minority movement to push for a candidate stronger on equality movements. Modern equality movements. Not civil rights and voting, but job advancement, better schools in tougher neighborhoods. I don't mean to stereotype, but there are a good number of minority citizens living in lower income areas. Yet, you still have certain latinos voting republican for the religous ethics, blacks voting democrat for certain reasons, and nothing really happens. I feel like a third party could make a splash in an election, but people like me are too afraid to take a vote away from my moderately awful democratic candidate. It's not the way voting was meant to be, and I'm as bad an offender as anyone.
Again, I agree about censorship. I'm okay wiht keeping watch on public airwaves. When we censor movies, video games, CD's and other things that people have to actively buy there is a problem. The push away from parent responsibility is alarming, and this has happened in the schools, in commerce, and in plain old raising productive members of society. It's sad...because truly no amount of censorship will do the same job as even a decent parent who spends some quality time teaching something.
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Post by NewFoundGlory on Feb 17, 2005 5:07:50 GMT -6
Yes, im tired of parents/voters always voting for the candidate "that's going to give them something"... everyone wants to be taken care of now... as the people become more dependent on the govnt, the more the govnt is going to get away with.
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