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Post by UICJason on Dec 22, 2004 9:26:45 GMT -6
Just want to know who the real fans are. Please post here if you wish to join me in supporting this team. I'll do it alone if not.
To chant defense for the other team is ridiculous. To buy other shirts is insane. This has no purpose. Either you are a fan or you aren't. If you really want to fire Jimmy then call the AD's office.
Otherwise, come to the Pav on Thursday and hope they wake up. For those who are jumping off and leaving this team, please don't come back when they're in the tournament again this year.
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Post by Chuck A on Dec 22, 2004 9:35:06 GMT -6
There are fans and there are fans. I think if a true die hard fan didn't care they wouldn't post here. They would just not care and be indifferent. In my opinion, a true Indigo and Flame bleeding fan, will have strong opinions about their team's performance BECAUSE they care and they will express those opinions however disagreeable to others they might be.
I'm a graduate of UIC and love this school to death, but right now I am thoroughly pissed, upset, embarrassed and fed up. That doesn't mean I still won't support this team after I've calmed down. Let me and all the rest of us that are feeling these emotions feel them. That's our right!
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Post by NewFoundGlory on Dec 22, 2004 9:40:45 GMT -6
Yes, I agree. Im a huge fan of the school in general not just athletics.
But if you think im going to go to the Cleveland St game and pay my hard earned money to watch a bunch of spoiled, full ride scholarship players play like they are in junior high, hell no, im not going to do that. Im not a sucker like that. This would be one thing if we were underachieving just this one year, but stuff like this happens all the time at UIC, where the schools screws you over.
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Post by mayurT on Dec 22, 2004 10:54:49 GMT -6
do any of you alums still have your i-cards? lol, if you do, you can still use them to get into games for free as students...
but as usual, I am a die hard. i've been to almost every home game and supported our squad.
in a way, after this loss to uwp, I think we have nothing to lose. I think that this team can only go uphill from here on out. Maybe all of you guys are right and this past game would serve as a major "cold shower" wake up call. I hope so...
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Post by UICJason on Dec 22, 2004 11:00:12 GMT -6
Yeah I was thinking how strange it was that all these alums were paying for games. Strange idea.
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Post by NewFoundGlory on Dec 22, 2004 11:24:31 GMT -6
do any of you alums still have your i-cards? lol, if you do, you can still use them to get into games for free as students... but as usual, I am a die hard. i've been to almost every home game and supported our squad. in a way, after this loss to uwp, I think we have nothing to lose. I think that this team can only go uphill from here on out. Maybe all of you guys are right and this past game would serve as a major "cold shower" wake up call. I hope so... I would agree with you, but didnt we say that about Bowling Green.
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Post by catalum2000 on Dec 22, 2004 13:52:23 GMT -6
Well, I'm still going to support them but they are still going to have to be number 2 for me. I'm still going to root for them, though.
You're right about one thing, though. Becoming a traitor, or acting like one for effect, isn't going help. People will see that and won't realize that you're really a pissed off fan. But the idea of having a concerted effort at making a point, either by a mass emailing to the AD or just a section of the Pav showing it's displeasure to the team during the next few games is not a bad idea.
You can boo a team and still support it. You don't have to cheer a team that's playing poorly. I never understood that. It's like that time when a Bear (RW?) complained that fans were booing them at Soldier Field and that real fans wouldn't do that. Really? Bulls@#!. Real fans will let you know that they are pissed off at poor performance. I see know reason why you die-hards couldn't, or shouldn't, do the same.
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Post by big m on Dec 22, 2004 14:52:14 GMT -6
I will still support the UIC even if I'm pissed. It's part of being a fan.
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Post by Jason T on Dec 22, 2004 17:09:33 GMT -6
I'm going to always support this team, but UIC apparently doesn't like hearing the truth whenever the team looks so bad, even the Bulls can win a game against the Flames.
If people don't like hearing my negativity on the Flames, "I'm sorry" is all I can say. Just because I'm a UIC grad doesn't mean I'm going to "pretend" the Flames are better than what their 3-6 record indicates. I'm gonna be honest.
They MUST be playing like a basketball version of the Cubs if they end up losing to a UWP team...those "me-first" players remind me of a certain Cub player who only cares about himself and not about his actual team.
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Post by UICJason on Dec 22, 2004 18:20:14 GMT -6
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
Last I checked, the Cubs had two winning seasons in a row, and the Bulls are on a 4 game winning streak. I don't even know what you're talking about.
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Post by spike1057 on Dec 22, 2004 21:27:37 GMT -6
Hey Jason just cause you have a winning season it doesnt mean s@#!, look at my sox we had a winning season for years and look what it got us.
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Post by UICJason on Dec 22, 2004 22:06:04 GMT -6
I just don't understand the analogy. It doesn't make any sense.
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Post by flyin30 on Dec 23, 2004 0:58:25 GMT -6
Funny you brought up the Cubs, when the Cubs took their nosedive last October, I was getting pumped up for the Flames, now with this start, I'm ready for the Cubs again...hopefully we can get a couple of wins together here to stop the bleeding, starting with Saginaw....I'll be cheering them on courtside...
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Post by Jason T on Dec 23, 2004 3:50:53 GMT -6
Actually, Chicago State is more comparable with the Cubs in the sense of neither team winning anything big in the postseason. Chicago State will never go to the "playoffs" in any form.
Northwestern is more accurate with the Cubs. Both teams sucked in the old days, and both teams were a bunch of losers. Now Northwestern and the Cubs are two teams on the rise. Northwestern isn't a bunch of losers at basketball (and the Cubs ain't a bunch of losers themselves) anymore.
These Flame players don't seem to give a s@#! about losing. Sounds a lot like a Chicago baseball team with players that didn't give a s@#! in losing baseball games that costed them a trip to the playoffs. If the Flame players cared about losing, they would've smoked the asses of (in baseball terms) an AAA minor league team.
At least the Flames can say "Hey, we don't care if we lose for the rest of the regular season. Unlike the Cubs and the Sox, we can simply go to the playoffs by winning our HL Tourney." Pardon the sarcasm in the first sentence. But it IS true you can have a LOSING season in the NCAA's and still remain eligible for the automatic NCAA bid when you enter your conference tourney. Whereas in baseball, the team in the cellar has no playoff hopes whatsoever. It'll take a lot of praying and miracles in order to get that auto bid as a losing team with a low seed. But upsets CAN happen.
If the HL ever gives the auto bid to the regular season champs or at least have a playoff tiebreaker game with the top 2 conference teams in order to decide who gets the auto bid, that's when you can say a winning season doesn't mean s@#! in HL basketball.
Although the Flames did not win the 2003 auto bid to the NCAA's, they still went to another playoff tourney called the NIT's. And considering the Flames' history of futility prior to the Coach C era (no postseason appearances-not even consecutive 20-win seasons), that 2002-2003 Flames season actually means something to me Last time I checked, the Sox never even played in playoff tiebreaking games, let alone get invited to a "Baseball NIT."
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Post by EzE on Dec 23, 2004 11:29:19 GMT -6
I still support the team. I am just VERY disappointed. Georgia Tech...a loss, but it was respectable. Duke...it was Duke. DePaul...embarassing, but I can deal with it. BG, UWP...different story!
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