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Post by FreeRadical on Feb 8, 2005 19:19:18 GMT -6
Apparently I'm not the only one who thinks the Pavilion is a great place to see a game: www.wnba.com/news/chicago2006_release050208.htmlFrom which I quote: "The newest WNBA team will play its home games at the UIC Pavilion, located on the campus of the University of Illinois at Chicago, with a seating capacity of 7,500. The UIC Pavilion hosts numerous sporting events including UIC Flames Men's and Women's basketball games. The Pavilion is also a prime location for shows and concerts with some of the country's leading entertainers." This is the second fledgling professional sports franchise to select the Pavilion in one year, and anybody that pays tuition and/or fees at UIC should be glad. Notably, the news conference was held RIGHT IN FRONT of the blue curtain, utilizing it as a backdrop. Our friendly neighborhood trolls and / or feline friends to the north need to straighten this clueless real estate developer dude out.
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Post by UICJohn on Feb 9, 2005 0:41:38 GMT -6
Very interesting. Any publicity that the school could get is good publicity.
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Post by spike1057 on Feb 9, 2005 16:08:22 GMT -6
As long as they dont mess around with our HL tourny then I guess its not going to be a problem. But if we have any problems like UWM, UGB, and other schools have had about hosting the tourny im going to be really pissed about them taking over the Pav.
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Post by NewFoundGlory on Feb 9, 2005 16:22:39 GMT -6
What team is going to be playing at the pavilion? is chicago getting a team? someone moving a team? or is this just temporary? details anyone?
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Post by UICJohn on Feb 9, 2005 16:58:36 GMT -6
Chicago was awarded a new WNBA franchise. They are starting from scratch and are going to be the 14th team in the WNBA. They are due to begin play in 2006. As far as how long they play at the Pav, I do not know if this is a temporary thing or long term. I guess that would depend on the attendance and how w ell the team does.
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Post by uicfan on Feb 9, 2005 17:15:44 GMT -6
Spike, we shouldn't have to worry about the new team taking over the pavilion. The WNBA season starts in May and ends in August, I think. And if the team ends up playing there for a few seasons, maybe they'll put in some money to make a few more positive changes to the building.
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Post by spike1057 on Feb 9, 2005 18:40:43 GMT -6
Thanks fan, I thought last year UWM were knocked away from the Cell b/c of the mystic which I thought was a womens team. But I was not aware of when the WNBA started so it makes me feel better.
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Post by NewFoundGlory on Feb 9, 2005 20:10:46 GMT -6
Thanks fan, I thought last year UWM were knocked away from the Cell b/c of the mystic which I thought was a womens team. But I was not aware of when the WNBA started so it makes me feel better. not sure if anyone cares or knows anything, but hows that indoor professional soccer league doing.. chicago has a team playing the pavilion
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Post by FreeRadical on Feb 9, 2005 20:18:19 GMT -6
Just when I was starting to think that maybe you guys were right, maybe the sports departments of newspapers aren't havens for racists and bigots, up pops this: www.suntimes.com/output/basketball/cst-spt-wnba09.htmlFrom which I quote: "Where will the team play? Home games will be played at the Illinois-Chicago Pavilion at Harrison and Racine. The WNBA has based its marketing on attracting families, and the site still leaves some questions. Will families come into the city for night games?" Apparently, "families" don't live in Chicago. This only makes sense under the following scenario: 1. The people who have children in Chicago are not really people at all. Only people have families. 2. On Rush street, otherwise known as the center of the universe, nobody's married so of course nobody's got a family and won't have one until they move to Naperville. In other words, since nobody has kids, there are no families, and since there aren't it is unlikely that they will be spending money on WNBA tickets. The harsh truth is that his use of the word "families" is nothing but a thinly-veiled, politically correct alternative to "middle-class white people". Read it and weep. I'm also willing to bet that there won't BE any "families" in Chicago until HE's married and in HIS thirties at which time the center of the universe will shift from the North Side to the great spawning ground to the West. Then EVERYBODY will have families. And yes, they will have to come downtown if they want to attend WNBA games.
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Post by NewFoundGlory on Feb 9, 2005 20:23:27 GMT -6
Just when I was starting to think that maybe you guys were right, maybe the sports departments of newspapers aren't havens for racists and bigots, up pops this: www.suntimes.com/output/basketball/cst-spt-wnba09.htmlFrom which I quote: "Where will the team play? Home games will be played at the Illinois-Chicago Pavilion at Harrison and Racine. The WNBA has based its marketing on attracting families, and the site still leaves some questions. Will families come into the city for night games?" Apparently, "families" don't live in Chicago. This only makes sense under the following scenario: 1. The people who have children in Chicago are not really people at all. Only people have families. 2. On Rush street, otherwise known as the center of the universe, nobody's married so of course nobody's got a family and won't have one until they move to Naperville. In other words, since nobody has kids, there are no families, and since there aren't it is unlikely that they will be spending money on WNBA tickets. The harsh truth is that his use of the word "families" is nothing but a thinly-veiled, politically correct alternative to "middle-class white people". Read it and weep. I'm also willing to bet that there won't BE any "families" in Chicago until HE's married and in HIS thirties at which time the center of the universe will shift from the North Side to the great spawning ground to the West. Then EVERYBODY will have families. And yes, they will have to come downtown if they want to attend WNBA games. freeradical, i like how your mind works... and i agree with you one hundred percent.... we need to talk some time...... not sure if you're into politics at all?
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Post by UICJason on Feb 9, 2005 22:23:01 GMT -6
not sure if anyone cares or knows anything, but hows that indoor professional soccer league doing.. chicago has a team playing the pavilion Not well. Not well at all.
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Post by UICJason on Feb 9, 2005 22:28:10 GMT -6
The thing that bugs me as much as any other part of that BS writing about "families" and "the city" is that that damn name of the place isn't the Illinois-Chicago Pavilion. I mean, I hate it enough when ESPN does it to describe the school, but whatever, I understand. That building has a name, and it's the UIC Pavilion.
By the way, Radical, I agree with you. It's not that its conscious racism or anything, but it just lingers in the minds of people who don't think enough about what they're saying. Also, there's a building 6 blocks down where the Bulls play. They don't seem to have any issue getting "families" or anyone else in there at night. If people don't come to watch the Chicago Wind (which is my guess for what they'll be called), it's because they don't care about women's basketball, not because of the Pavilion.
I'll use my cool color...the corner of Harrison and Racine is SO dangerous...especially when you park next door and there are 20 cops outside during events.
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Post by FreeRadical on Feb 10, 2005 7:01:08 GMT -6
"The thing that bugs me as much as any other part of that BS writing about "families" and "the city" is that that damn name of the place isn't the Illinois-Chicago Pavilion. I mean, I hate it enough when ESPN does it to describe the school, but whatever, I understand. That building has a name, and it's the UIC Pavilion."
I'm trying to remeber if I have EVER heard the school called ANYTHING but "Circle Campus", "Circle" or "UIC", by students OR locals. Correct me if I'm wrong, but even the people who wear "Illinois-Chicago" sweatshirts around campus refer to the school as "UIC" in conversation. Its part of the school's tradition of three-letter acronym-ism .
The fact that Sun-Times reporter didn't get the name of the venue correct, and repeatedly refers to UIC as "Illinois-Chicago" is a dead giveaway that he's not from Illinois, northern Indiana, or southern Wisconsin.
He probably knows where "Cermak" Road is, drove through "WOR-chester" Mass. on his way to Boston, and is planning a trip to "Edin-BURG" Scotland, too.
The announcer for the Georgia Tech game caught himself using the name "Illinois-Chicago Pavilion", and he stopped. I think somebody clued him because he also stopped using "Illinois-Chicago" when referring to UIC during the remainder of the game. My guess is that some broadcasters genuinely DON'T want to sound like tourists.
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Post by UICJohn on Feb 10, 2005 10:13:19 GMT -6
I agree that the stereotype about the area is unfair to consider when you park next to the building and walk about 200 feet. And even if they're more paranoid about it, it is right at the exit of the highway. I think that the Sun Times did a very poor job in whoever wrote that article. And either way, if you ask me, the thoughts about the area are way overblown. I know how things used to be, and I know that the area isn't the best yet, but it is nowhere near how it was even 5 years ago. I walk to the Pav and nothing ever happens. I jog around the neighborhood with no problem. Sure, the area has some problems, but it is much better than it used to be.
Fun fact of the day: UIUC has a higher crime rate than UIC.
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Post by NewFoundGlory on Feb 10, 2005 17:40:17 GMT -6
Check this out. I emailed this writer last night and check out his response. Take note, that I DID NOT EDIT any of this, this is exact copy/paste from my email. Lol, any comments on this character?
-------------------------------- Hi I didn't mean white or higher income but since the Bulls first got good, most of the tickets wer bought up by businesses, not families. This is a different client base The fact is, in my opinion, that families just don't go into the central city at night and it doesn't matter if they are black or white, rich or poor There are far more people right now and far more familiess that do live in the suburbs and a lot of people that are smarter than me douby they will come into the city at night. because of the schools, there are a lot more families that are ;iving in the suburbsI rarely see lots of families, black or white, that go to either Sox Park or Wrigley Field in the summer for night games Going back to 1996, the women's US Olympic team played Russia at UIC and the attendance was terrible.When the ABL was here a few years ago, no one came and they tried to draw families
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Lol how about the part "the fact is, in my opinion"... and this guy is supposed to be a writer..
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