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Post by UICJohn on Oct 19, 2005 17:31:26 GMT -6
I finally made it out to a UIC soccer game. The Flames played at DePaul today. UIC played sloppy the entire game, but even more so in the second half. However, in my opinion, it shouldn't have even gone to OT. The DePaul goal was very close to being an offsides and it was right in front of where I was sitting. Then UIC scored a goal in the second half but was taken back because of an offside call that I honestly think was a bad one. This was also right in front of where I was sitting. UIC then had a break away 1-on-1 but the kick when right. But we won it in the second OT, so all is well.
On a side note, today I realized why I disike DePaul so much. The fans that were there were very cocky, groaned and moaned after every call against them and one guy was even yelling at the ref every time he walked by, which I thought was a little overboard. He was standing on the sidelines and whenever the ref was near he screamed. I even had people sitting next to me saying some negative things about UIC which I didn't really care to hear. But when UIC won, the crowed erupted in cheer. I would be willing to bet UIC had as many, if not more fans than DePaul did.
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Post by Big D on Oct 19, 2005 18:23:22 GMT -6
Nice win for UIC....
With us being ranked 26 or 27 right now, this win may put us in the top 25 if any of the teams ranked 20-25 lose a game. I think we were last ranked in 2001.
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Post by UICJohn on Oct 19, 2005 18:47:35 GMT -6
You have to believe that if we win our next game this week (not sure who it is) that we most definitely could be ranked. We won today with a lack luster effort, but a win is a win. I can't really make too many judgments because it was my first game I have seen. But when it comes down to it, we won without our best effort and that is what good teams do.
I am really excited as to the direction this team is headed under Coach Trask. His first season and we're having a heck of a year. And I feel that a big asset that he will be to us is the recruiting department, and that is something that he hasn't really had a chance to show yet. He is a big name in the soccer community, and I think that will only bring good things when it comes to recruiting. Not to mention the season we are having, which should also help.
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Post by GoFlames on Oct 20, 2005 18:04:51 GMT -6
Coming off a tough victory Sunday, they were lucky to get a win, Shorthanded after Zambrano's red card.
A victory in Green Bay this weekend would be great, but realistically it will be the third game in a week and they aren't terribly deep. Hopefully they can find a way.
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Post by UICJohn on Oct 20, 2005 18:22:13 GMT -6
We were playing very defensively towards the end of the game and I will admit I didn't even realize Zambrano had two yellow cards (equal a red).
UWGB isn't an awful tough team but timing is a problem. But I don't think our staff will let this team slow up. Coach Trask made a very good point after the game about wanting to finish this season very strong so that just if we do lose in the HL Tournament, we still might have a chance for an At Large
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Post by Big D on Oct 23, 2005 23:32:39 GMT -6
On a side note, today I realized why I disike DePaul so much. A further side note...did you know that Depaul is playing a basketball game on the road this year at NIU? NIU and UIC played Depaul at Depaul last year. NIU beat them and got a return game. Why didn't we get a return game? Will we ever get one....? I hate Depaul  |
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Post by bluedemon fan on Nov 12, 2005 22:28:35 GMT -6
why do you hate depaul because some retarded old guy was going overboard with mocking the ref? And Big D, why do you hate depaul for not getting a home-and-home? you got the game you wanted for so long with depaul and we smoked you by 20.
by the way, what do you think of depaul's new soccer field? it was totally renovated over the summer and now has a great turf.
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Post by Big D on Nov 12, 2005 23:28:52 GMT -6
why do you hate depaul because some retarded old guy was going overboard with mocking the ref? And Big D, why do you hate depaul for not getting a home-and-home? you got the game you wanted for so long with depaul and we smoked you by 20. by the way, what do you think of depaul's new soccer field? it was totally renovated over the summer and now has a great turf. Yeah, you smoked us by 20...luckily for you, Greer played the game of his life, and Bailey wasn't eligible. The reason I hate Depaul is simple. You guys get all the media attention in Chicago, and I don't really know why (other than playing in a good conference). Couple that with the fact that you guys were/are too scared to give us a home game, especially during the time of Banks, Bailey, Williams, and Carr...and that's about it. We probably would've beaten you had we gotten a home game in the past 3-4 years or so.... |
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Post by bluedemon fan on Nov 13, 2005 20:06:29 GMT -6
oh yeah, play you during the banks/bailey era...let me remind you that during the Banks/Bailey era we got to the 2nd round of the tournament. That isn't a big deal but when did UIC ever get past the first round?
Even if we played you during that time, it would've come out to be the same result. During the Banks/Bailey era we had Andre Brown and Dellonte Holland who averaged a combined 35 points per game and 20 rbs per game.
Media coverage? You and I both know that the bloody Illini get all the media coverage. Nobody cares about UIC nor DePaul in this city. It's all about the Illini. I think this is where UIC and DePaul have a common enemy. This will soon change after Dee and Augustine graduate and little brucy has no real recruits.
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Post by Big D on Nov 13, 2005 20:14:29 GMT -6
oh yeah, play you during the banks/bailey era...let me remind you that during the Banks/Bailey era we got to the 2nd round of the tournament. That isn't a big deal but when did UIC ever get past the first round? Even if we played you during that time, it would've come out to be the same result. During the Banks/Bailey era we had Andre Brown and Dellonte Holland who averaged a combined 35 points per game and 20 rbs per game. Media coverage? You and I both know that the bloody Illini get all the media coverage. Nobody cares about UIC nor DePaul in this city. It's all about the Illini. I think this is where UIC and DePaul have a common enemy. This will soon change after Dee and Augustine graduate and little brucy has no real recruits. Well, apparently you have a different opinion from the guys actually scheduling games for Depaul. Need I remind you how much home-court advantage really means in college basketball. Could you have beaten us at UIC? Sure....but I would've liked to have a crack at you. Why is NIU getting a home game this year? As for Depaul not getting media coverage, I say that's BS. I will agree that Illinois gets the most and I despise them more than Depaul, but you guys still get your fair share. |
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Post by UICJohn on Nov 13, 2005 20:29:58 GMT -6
I hate DePaul for a simple reason: They think that they are better than they really are. They think that because tuition is $20,000 that it is some sort of elite institution. Ha. They think that they are superior in every sport. They were talking about UIC like we were some scrub soccer team. Well, they obviously didn't know much and just assumed because we are quite superior. I don't know how, with their record, they could think that they were better than many teams.
If I was talking to someone and said I went to UIC and my friend said he went to DePaul, I think that most people would look at him and think he's smarter or something because people tend to think DePaul is better for some reason. Fact is I had a scholarship to DePaul and turned it down for the fact I didn't want to go there.
So the reasons I do not like DePaul are much more than some arrogant jerk yelling at the refs the entire game.
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Post by bluedemon fan on Nov 13, 2005 20:44:15 GMT -6
UICJohn, I'm not sure who you are referring to, but at least the fans at WeAreDePaul.com don't think we are all that. We will point out every weakness (and believe me, we have plenty of weaknesses) and discuss them.
No one thinks we are all that. We are projected to finish #11 out of 16 teams in the Big East. Is that hurting our egos? NO! Because we know we will get smacked by the upper echelon of the conference. I don't know who you've met, but I myself don't think DePaul as being all that.
And no one says DePaul is a "better" school than UIC. UIC is better in some ways, and DePaul is better in other ways. You can't compare the two because they serve different types of people who are aspiring to be enrolled in different careers. Please don't misconstrue what we think about ourselves.
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Post by UICJohn on Nov 13, 2005 21:04:50 GMT -6
I apologize. I don't mean to generalize among an entire group of people. When you talk about any sort of group, you get some bad with some good. And when I say things like that, I am mainly talking about people that I know. I have visited WeareDePaul.com and I agree with what you say. I guess just the ones that I know personally are generally like that. And of course, you always seem to remember the bad instead of the good.
As far as the perception of the school, I think it's fair to say that the average person would think more highly of DePaul than UIC just because of the name. And when I say that I am not saying the DePaul is a bad school either. We on the board have had many discussions and all agree that you can't compare the two because one excels in some areas and the other excels in other areas. And even though the average person would think more highly of DePaul, I am not even saying that it is not warranted. DePaul is older, has more tradition, etc.
All in all, I don't look at DePaul like I do UWM! Or even Loyola. I have never had an argument or near fight with DePaul fans. I will admit that alot of the negative feelings I have of DePaul are somewhat jealousy. We had some good seasons but still never really got much in the Chicago news.
And the soccer field was nice. It was very confusing as to how to get into there. But when you walk to the bleachers, you step on the turf. Looks very nice. I saw them installing it from the El a few times.
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Post by FreeRadical on Nov 14, 2005 19:54:30 GMT -6
You are too kind, my friend.
Because both schools are roughly the same size, apples to apples comparisons to UIC can be made. And the truth is that compared to UIC's, DePaul's are sweet, soft and easily digested. Kind of like a glass of white desert wine. UIC's are bitter, hard to swallow, and toxic if taken in large amounts. More like a shot of gin.
I personally prefer martinis, so I'll take the gin, thank you, but I have no problem with someone who prefers wine provided they don't claim that:
1. Wine is better than gin, or
2. Everyone does or should prefer wine to gin, or
3. Wine and gin are the same, equal, or comparable because they both contain alcohol.
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