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Post by UICJason on Dec 14, 2004 15:54:08 GMT -6
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Post by catalum2000 on Dec 14, 2004 18:27:42 GMT -6
Much ado about nothing, methinks. At least, unless there is some proof that this "Bob" is a real person who could be questioned. Conveniently, he is not.
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Post by Dave on Dec 15, 2004 7:38:02 GMT -6
Hey guys.
Just to clarify, I'm not a Duke fan (just an ACC guy) and the story's not fake. At the same time, I understand your skepticism. I don't know if I ever got the guy's name, but I certainly don't remember it now.
Doesn't mean it's not true though.
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Post by UICJason on Dec 15, 2004 9:30:44 GMT -6
So your friend is telling you that Jimmy Collins is such a sneaky mastermind that unlike any other assistant coach in history, he ABSOLUTELY cannot be caught?
That sounds ridiculous to me. The common thread among all recruiting violations is that there is 1 person who knows for sure, and that's the player. So, don't tell me that he CANNOT be caught. That's ridiculous. If Deon Thomas had a Chevy Blazer, he can be caught.
Beyond all that, Bruce Pearl is a scumbag.
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Post by Horizonleaguer on Dec 15, 2004 12:38:20 GMT -6
Get over the Bruce Pearl thing. He is not a scumbag, he is an excellent coach and his coaching record shows for it. He has built UWM up to be a mid major powerhouse and has won two national championships at different levels. Bruce Pearl is a great coach as is Jimmy Collins, get over it
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Post by EzE on Dec 15, 2004 13:29:21 GMT -6
You can be an excellent coach (recordwise) and a scumbag at the same time...such is the case with Bruce Pearl.
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Post by Horizonleager on Dec 15, 2004 13:43:13 GMT -6
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Post by Jay C on Dec 15, 2004 14:36:54 GMT -6
I have witnessed Bruce Pearl's lack of class first hand. If you attended the UIC/UWM game last year in Chicago you know what I mean. Throwing water coolers and swearing at the refs.
The UWM players and fans have about as much class as their leader. I recall the fans yelling rapist at Mercetteus Magee. Unfortunately I had my 8 year old son with me at the time and he had to witness these monsters yelling obsceneties.
I think scumbag is the correct word for Bruce Pearl and anyone how roots for his team.
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Post by Dave on Dec 15, 2004 14:54:09 GMT -6
So your friend is telling you that Jimmy Collins is such a sneaky mastermind that unlike any other assistant coach in history, he ABSOLUTELY cannot be caught? That sounds ridiculous to me. The common thread among all recruiting violations is that there is 1 person who knows for sure, and that's the player. So, don't tell me that he CANNOT be caught. That's ridiculous. If Deon Thomas had a Chevy Blazer, he can be caught. Well, of course he could have been caught. He just wasn't. That he couldn't get caught was this guy's opinion, but as a friend of Jimmy's he was obviously biased. Actually, it wasn't a crazy opinion. There are tons and tons of examples of the NCAA going in to investigate major violations and finding only minor stuff. Sometimes the real story comes out later in a book, or in Michigan's case, a federal trial. If the players involved don't want to talk, there is usually very little the NCAA can do to investigate. Unlike real law enforcement, they have no powers of subpoena. Their only power is the threat of ineligibility, but if the only sources of info are the recruits and coaches, there's often little they can do. They can't do much based on just rumor. |
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Post by UICJason on Dec 15, 2004 14:59:42 GMT -6
He ASKED about another recruiter with pointed questions and just HAPPENED to be RECORDING the phone call? Above that, he acted like an idiot in front of his players at UIC last year, and this year turned around and encouraged a student section that yelled rapist at a player on the opposing team. GMAFB. |
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Post by pantherfan on Dec 15, 2004 15:36:23 GMT -6
I have witnessed Bruce Pearl's lack of class first hand. If you attended the UIC/UWM game last year in Chicago you know what I mean. Throwing water coolers and swearing at the refs. The UWM players and fans have about as much class as their leader. I recall the fans yelling rapist at Mercetteus Magee. Unfortunately I had my 8 year old son with me at the time and he had to witness these monsters yelling obsceneties. I think scumbag is the correct word for Bruce Pearl and anyone how roots for his team. Hey JayC maybe you should explain to your son why collins recruits somebody who is a rapist, I mean this guy was kicked off wisconsin who allowed boo wade after choking his gf to remain, who allowed dwayne smith to remain. Magee is what he is and even wisconsin wouldnt allow him on the team |
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Post by uicstomper on Dec 15, 2004 15:46:15 GMT -6
I thought horizon leaguer made a bet, and he lost. SO why doesnt he ante up and shut his yap on here until jan3
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Post by UICJason on Dec 15, 2004 15:53:01 GMT -6
Hey JayC maybe you should explain to your son why collins recruits somebody who is a rapist, I mean this guy was kicked off wisconsin who allowed boo wade after choking his gf to remain, who allowed dwayne smith to remain. Magee is what he is and even wisconsin wouldnt allow him on the team I wasn't aware that people who got into trouble with the law weren't allowed to play college basketball. He was asked to leave Wisconsin because it HAPPENED AT WISCONSIN. He was going to play college basketball somewhere, and if you think that people who have troubles shouldn't be taken in and given something constructive to do, then you've also got some problems. McGee didn't go to jail. If he was convicted of rape, he would be in jail. Otherwise, he's a kid who probably made a mistake of some sort, paid for it and has been a model citizen here. JayC shouldn't need to talk to his son about the personal lives of UIC players. He should be able to sit there and enjoy basketball, enjoy some fans screaming silly things back and forth, and not have to deal with 80 retards singing rapist. |
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Post by Lee on Dec 15, 2004 22:21:06 GMT -6
He ASKED about another recruiter with pointed questions and just HAPPENED to be RECORDING the phone call? Above that, he acted like an idiot in front of his players at UIC last year, and this year turned around and encouraged a student section that yelled rapist at a player on the opposing team. GMAFB. horizonleaguer, i noticed you didn't reply to this, more lucid post. it is always a scumbag move to record a recruiting phone call, especially to repeatedly lead the player with question till you get the answer you want. what possible reason could you have for recording a phone call? |
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Post by nohopspanther on Dec 15, 2004 22:26:46 GMT -6
McGee did indeed rape a woman, plead guilty and got no Jail time. He is a rapist.
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