some athletic budget stats

[Big D]

bbstate.com gives budget statistics for all D1 schools. They're not easy to get though because before too long, popup ads asking you to purchase a subscription hide the view of the information on the page...anyway, I managed to pull the stuff I was interested in...

Here's the breakdown of total athletic revenues for 2007 for each HL school...in parentheses next to it, is the profit for 2007...

Butler: $10,235,838 (+0)
UIC: $9,968,203 (+569,945)
UWM: $9,918,205 (+0)
YSU: $9,814,254 (+0)
WSU: $9,390,264 (+0)
Valpo: $9,128,162 (+10,359)
CSU: $8,345,575 (+0)
Loyola: $7,430,501 (+0)
UDM: $6,889,265 (+36,333)
UWGB: $5,719,502 (+32,967)

From this you can see that we are the 2nd highest funded in the HL. We are also operating more in the black than any other HL school, which is fantastic. Now, maybe the other schools simply didn't report their profits (I find it odd that there are so many +0s), but these are the only numbers we can go by (as far as I know).

Based strictly on money, it's hard to say we're not running a successful program. Hey, maybe this is why things just aren't changing in the bball program...why mess with a good thing, right? After all, the bottom line is munz

Ahhh, but hoops budgets are a different story. In all of D1 in 2007, here are the rankings...In the parentheses, the first number is the amount spent on basketball and the second number is the amount spend on basketball recruiting......

91: UWM ($2,218,869, $69,620)
121: WSU ($1,661,575, $109,220)
128: Detroit ($1,575,285, $79,330)
129: Loyola ($1,574,113, $93,763)
138: CSU ($1,493,610, $83,972)
142: Butler ($1,463,988, $73,463)
149: Valpo ($1,402,355, $91,415)
154: UIC ($1,367,240, $129,749)
171: UWGB ($1,259,822, $55,774)
246: YSU ($846,665, $98,609)

We're clearly outspent here....so is it any surprise that we don't compete in conference every year? Almost 1/4 of our budget goes to Jimmy Collins....ouch!

[circle70]

Good stuff, Big D.

[FuryJP]

Big D, does this site also give the coach's salaries? Where can I find that information?

[soccer fan]

Raw numbers are good, but lets normalize the basketball numbers to get a more acurate comparison, shall we:

Normalizing them to UIC (ie, UIC = 1.0) gives:

School total recruiting

UWM 1.62 0.54
WSU 1.22 0.84
UDM 1.15 0.61
LUC 1.15 0.72
CSU 1.09 0.65
BU 1.07 0.57
Valpo 1.03 0.7
UIC 1 1
UWGB 0.92 0.43
YSU 0.62 0.76

Normalizing them to Butler gives:

school tot recruit
UWM 1.52 0.95
WSU 1.13 1.49
UDM 1.08 1.08
LUC 1.08 1.28
CSU 1.02 1.14
BU 1 1
Valpo 0.96 1.24
UIC 0.93 1.77
UWGB 0.86 0.76
YSU 0.58 1.34

With the exception of UWM and YSU, I don't see a major disparity in total basketball funding, because a disparity of 10 or 15 percent can easily be explained by bookkeeping. WSU is borderline significant, but hardly major.

This really drives home the lack of a correlation between total expenditures and basketball standings. If anything, this shows why it is foolish to overinvest or put all your eggs in basketball. You need to be competitive and that's it.

I am delighted to see UWM getting such a great return on their basketball investment! Really justifies the downgrading of the baseball and soccer programs we've seen over the last couple of years to pay for it, doesn't it? I guess pissing money away is part and parcel of their March to the Valley. LOL.

And look at UIC's recruiting budget! We must be beating the tar out of everyone else in the conference in that department, right?

All kidding aside, I am seriously impressed with the overall profit shown by UIC's Athletic Dept. I have no idea what accounting contortions they endured to come up with it, but it certainly looks good and THAT is what matters in these matters.

Now if they can pull off a lucrative jersey sponsorship (like the Fire just did), and maybe sell the naming rights to the Pavilion, they should be in good enough financial shape to be competitive across the board.

[UICJohn]

While our budget overall is middle of the pack, given our recruiting numbers, we should be getting some talent. Not to say that were not getting any good players right now because we are. However, with those numbers (double or almost double Butler, UWM, and UWGB) you would think we'd be getting some recruits heads and shoulders above all conference foes