Fighting the good fight...
Feb 11, 2009 17:38:44 GMT -6
Post by Big D on Feb 11, 2009 17:38:44 GMT -6
I don't know why, but this morning, when I read the Trib article on the UIC/Detroit game, I was particularly annoyed at the use of "Illinois-Chicago" instead of "UIC"....maybe because in the very same article, the author used UDM's preferred name ("Detroit") without ever referring to it as "Detroit-Mercy".
I decided to email the author, and here's the exchange we had. Let's just say that based on the nonsense this guy wrote back to me (and I still have no idea what point he's trying to make), we won't be getting our abbreviation in the paper anytime soon.
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While all UIC fans fully appreciate you taking the time to write a story about our school, we ask that you please follow the requests of the UIC athletic department and the Horizon League and refer to the school in acceptable fashion: as "UIC".
UIC is not to be referred to as Illinois-Chicago, Ill-Chi, Ill. (Chi), UI-Chicago, etc. That dash in the name is seen as a negative among college hoops media and fans. Hence, the reason for "UIC". People don't call UCLA "California-Los Angeles", people don't call Illinois "Urbana-Champaign", and people don't call Charlotte "UNC-Charlotte". The list goes on and on.
See page 8 at grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/hori/genrel/auto_pdf/07_brand_id_guide.pdf
I also found it amusing that you couldn't respect the wishes of a school in your own town, yet you respected Detroit's wishes of being called Detroit, despite their name being Detroit-Mercy. Why didn't you use the dash there?
Please spread the word at the Tribune. UIC is UIC....and that's it.
Thanks.
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Your logic actually would seem to be that your school be called 'Chicago', which unfortunately is already pretty much taken. California schools, if I'm not mistaken, are referred to as UC-Davis, UC-Santa Barbara, etc on first references. Actually, UCLA-Los Angeles would be a bit redundant. I have not used or even seen Ill-Chi, Ill. (Chi), or UI-Chicago so you may have the Tribune and me confused with some other outlet. In any case, thanks for the note.
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I don't understand your email. The pdf I sent you is a media guide saying that the only acceptable reference for UIC is "UIC". "Illinois-Chicago", which is what you used in your article, is the most commonly used inappropriate reference. I did not get you confused with another media outlet. Though you didn't use Ill-Chi or Ill. (Chi), for instance, ESPN often does. My point is that everything but "UIC", including "Illinois-Chicago", is incorrect.
If you're going to refer to UIC as "Illinois-Chicago", then you should also refer to Detroit as "Detroit-Mercy", UCLA as "California-Los Angeles" (since they are University of California-Los Angeles), and Illinois as "Illinois-Urbana-Champaign".
I don't really see how my logic leads to UIC being called Chicago. It should simply be called what it wants to be called. You can't use "Illinois-Chicago" without using the others I listed above. Just in your article alone, you used Detroit's accepted name instead of their unacceptable equivalent of "Illinois-Chicago", i.e., "Detroit-Mercy".
Thanks.
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It is not practicable to use everyone's preferred full title or name, for a variety of reasons - space and clarity, for example. If there were another 'Detroit' with which Mercy could be confused, likely it would be 'Mercy' in common usage. The Angels may wish now to be called something like the Los Angeles Angels at Anaheim, not the the 'Los Angeles Angels' as they are; the White Sox may now prefer to be called 'The 2005 World Champion Chicago White Sox' - in their own publications, they certainly can be. Thanks for the note.
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Can anyone explain his response? Anyone? Were my emails that unclear?
I decided to email the author, and here's the exchange we had. Let's just say that based on the nonsense this guy wrote back to me (and I still have no idea what point he's trying to make), we won't be getting our abbreviation in the paper anytime soon.
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While all UIC fans fully appreciate you taking the time to write a story about our school, we ask that you please follow the requests of the UIC athletic department and the Horizon League and refer to the school in acceptable fashion: as "UIC".
UIC is not to be referred to as Illinois-Chicago, Ill-Chi, Ill. (Chi), UI-Chicago, etc. That dash in the name is seen as a negative among college hoops media and fans. Hence, the reason for "UIC". People don't call UCLA "California-Los Angeles", people don't call Illinois "Urbana-Champaign", and people don't call Charlotte "UNC-Charlotte". The list goes on and on.
See page 8 at grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/hori/genrel/auto_pdf/07_brand_id_guide.pdf
I also found it amusing that you couldn't respect the wishes of a school in your own town, yet you respected Detroit's wishes of being called Detroit, despite their name being Detroit-Mercy. Why didn't you use the dash there?
Please spread the word at the Tribune. UIC is UIC....and that's it.
Thanks.
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Your logic actually would seem to be that your school be called 'Chicago', which unfortunately is already pretty much taken. California schools, if I'm not mistaken, are referred to as UC-Davis, UC-Santa Barbara, etc on first references. Actually, UCLA-Los Angeles would be a bit redundant. I have not used or even seen Ill-Chi, Ill. (Chi), or UI-Chicago so you may have the Tribune and me confused with some other outlet. In any case, thanks for the note.
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I don't understand your email. The pdf I sent you is a media guide saying that the only acceptable reference for UIC is "UIC". "Illinois-Chicago", which is what you used in your article, is the most commonly used inappropriate reference. I did not get you confused with another media outlet. Though you didn't use Ill-Chi or Ill. (Chi), for instance, ESPN often does. My point is that everything but "UIC", including "Illinois-Chicago", is incorrect.
If you're going to refer to UIC as "Illinois-Chicago", then you should also refer to Detroit as "Detroit-Mercy", UCLA as "California-Los Angeles" (since they are University of California-Los Angeles), and Illinois as "Illinois-Urbana-Champaign".
I don't really see how my logic leads to UIC being called Chicago. It should simply be called what it wants to be called. You can't use "Illinois-Chicago" without using the others I listed above. Just in your article alone, you used Detroit's accepted name instead of their unacceptable equivalent of "Illinois-Chicago", i.e., "Detroit-Mercy".
Thanks.
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It is not practicable to use everyone's preferred full title or name, for a variety of reasons - space and clarity, for example. If there were another 'Detroit' with which Mercy could be confused, likely it would be 'Mercy' in common usage. The Angels may wish now to be called something like the Los Angeles Angels at Anaheim, not the the 'Los Angeles Angels' as they are; the White Sox may now prefer to be called 'The 2005 World Champion Chicago White Sox' - in their own publications, they certainly can be. Thanks for the note.
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Can anyone explain his response? Anyone? Were my emails that unclear?