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Post by gunnarjones on Feb 2, 2024 18:07:58 GMT -6
Tim Anderson. Give him the job. He’s young, from the west side, everyone likes him, he can flat out recruit, he has enough experience.
Take a chance and go for it. Tim is the kind of chance UIC needs to take. He is the kind of coach to turn this dumpster fire program around. The city will be excited. Transfers will come.
That’s the move for UIC. but I doubt he’s even on theradar.
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Post by flamesfan20 on Feb 3, 2024 11:12:07 GMT -6
Tim Anderson would be a great choice but would he take a pay cut to come to UIC? He makes $551,250 (Acoording to university salary database) and Yak only makes $428,000
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Post by gunnarjones on Feb 4, 2024 8:35:07 GMT -6
That’s a great question. I would assume that the amount paid to a coach would increase every vacancy. Not enough to cover that gap but some. Maybe up to the $475 range. Maybe there can be come performance incentives to make up for the lower base.
There would definitely need to be some compromise on Anderson’s part. But if the chancellor and AD are serious about bringing in someone that can turn around how awful this program has become it’s going to take more money and courage on the selection.
How many candidates that can truly turn things around would even consider this school. Very few, if any. I think Anderson is the one.
This is all fantasy. But imagine if the AD and chancellor put this program in a position to actually compete and be respected again. We all can dream.
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Post by UICJohn on Feb 4, 2024 15:26:19 GMT -6
I just don’t think we will make a change. Things are once again as bad they’ve ever been but 2 more years left. If we didn’t give that ridiculous 1-year extension I’d imagine it would be coming.
This is a nightmare because we are now 3 coaches fired and the program in shambles. I don’t know how we sell this to any future coaches. Whats the draw? What’s the reason they believe they can turn it around?
I don’t think we have EVER had a coach succeed, and then get hired on for a better job.
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Post by goveybaseball on Feb 5, 2024 8:46:50 GMT -6
I know we keep harping on Fens but how is it even possible he doesn't get 15-20 minutes a game? He's huge in person and clearly put on muscle. At the worst he can block shots, board and set picks. He even had a solid half hook against SIU. He's got to be part of the rotation going forward !
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Post by Chuck A on Feb 12, 2024 16:51:50 GMT -6
Tim Anderson. Give him the job. He’s young, from the west side, everyone likes him, he can flat out recruit, he has enough experience. Take a chance and go for it. Tim is the kind of chance UIC needs to take. He is the kind of coach to turn this dumpster fire program around. The city will be excited. Transfers will come. That’s the move for UIC. but I doubt he’s even on theradar. Not for me. He’s been an assistant at DePaul and UTRGV. I said DePaul and UTRGV! What did he do to help those programs?! We’ve already seen with Howard Moore and Luke Yaklich that being a good assistant coach doesn’t necessarily translate into being a good head coach. Give me someone who is having or has had success as a head coach, no matter the level.
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Post by gunnarjones on Feb 28, 2024 7:01:13 GMT -6
This is an interesting comment. Since you have no idea about what he’s done to help those programs instead of genuinely asking how he helped recruit/help at those schools to find out you made a negative assumption and posed the question that way.
Head coaching success at any level. How did Steve McLain work out?
Tim Anderson was a public league head coach for a while before moving on to college. That’s a level.
It’s ok to not think someone isn’t the right fit. But at least know something about them other than a quick read of their U of I bio.
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Post by Chuck A on Mar 3, 2024 8:09:57 GMT -6
This is an interesting comment. Since you have no idea about what he’s done to help those programs instead of genuinely asking how he helped recruit/help at those schools to find out you made a negative assumption and posed the question that way. Head coaching success at any level. How did Steve McLain work out? Tim Anderson was a public league head coach for a while before moving on to college. That’s a level. It’s ok to not think someone isn’t the right fit. But at least know something about them other than a quick read of their U of I bio. Relax. Almost 100% of what’s posted here are OPINIONS! Some may sprinkled with facts, but most are just what someone thinks. I don’t know Tim Anderson, just like I didn’t know ANY of the previous head coaches, except Jimmy Collins from watching Illini games and him recruiting the Chicago area. So it’s nothing personal against the guy. The head coaches we’ve had in the past, i.e., Jimmy Collins, Howard Moore, Steve McClain, all were from winning programs. McClain was head coach at Wyoming before he was an assistant at Indiana (another winning program), just before coming here. No one is disparaging anybody, just giving my opinion. Illinois, Wisconsin, Indiana, Michigan, Texas were all winning programs where it was noted what those former assistants brought to the respective program. People tend to talk about recruiting. Recruiting, by and large, has NEVER been a problem for the Flames. It’s always been the coaching. UIC has always been able to recruit 3-star players and the occasional 4-star. Getting Anderson here for recruiting is a non-starter in that regard. Since UIC changed its direction and focused on academics and research, it’s focused shifted from your Chicago Public League star to maybe the regional Chicagoland star. Mainly due to certain players not being able to handle UIC’s academics and having to sit out their freshman year before playing. They passed on those that maybe needed to go JUCO first. The Public schools had their fair share of student athletes with academic issues. You asked about McClain. He was a winner at Wyoming and took them to the Dance before falling off and losing his last few years before becoming an assistant at Indiana. I wouldn’t have hired him at UIC either. Those last few years at Wyoming would’ve been enough resume info for me. It turned out that was the case. McClain, somehow, lost the ability to head coach… and this guy had some of the best talent EVER ASSEMBLED at UIC! Now he’s back assisting. Former UIC assistant Brock Erickson just won Coach of the year at his level. He’s had sustained success the years he’s been there. This time, I want a winning head coach to coach this program, not an assistant, unless he’s off the charts! This University has the money to pay someone like that. That’s just MY OPINION. That’s all.
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Post by goveybaseball on Mar 3, 2024 10:02:45 GMT -6
You won't win if you can't recruit local bottom line. UIC's best teams were filled with local kids like Bailey, Banks, Ford, Hiobbs, Lampley, Armand Williams, Mark Miller etc. yak finally has a stud local kid coming Harris. Getting transfers from Utah State and Triton is going to win you 3-5 games in valley as we have seen. You look at the valley and some of the better players are local Illinois kids. Avila, D'Amico etc.
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Post by UICJohn on Mar 3, 2024 11:01:19 GMT -6
I would be almost willing to go out and say that the commitment from Chris Harris itself has almost bought Yak another year. I know the extra owners contract is big, but I really think a local commitment from a player of that caliber does have that much of an impact.
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Post by Chuck A on Mar 3, 2024 12:08:07 GMT -6
First off, you CAN win without Public League stars, so let’s stop that. Also the bulk of the players listed above had to sit a year, including Banks. I’m not saying don’t recruit the Public League, but you have to recruit those who you know can make the grades! And guess what? The Power 6 will be on that athlete as well! We need a coach who can win or show success with what he has. Win and the recruits will sign. Win and more recruits will come. Win more and more recruits AND fans will come! WINNING CURES ALL ILLS!
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Post by goveybaseball on Mar 3, 2024 13:14:44 GMT -6
How's DePaul doing without recruiting the public league? You have some of the best basketball talent in the country coming out of the public league. Why can a school like Iowa State out recruit DePaul and Uic in the city, it's a joke. The recruits he's getting now majority are borderline valley players sorry.
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Post by goveybaseball on Mar 3, 2024 14:42:11 GMT -6
Just getting smoked on the boards !
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Post by goveybaseball on Mar 3, 2024 14:50:25 GMT -6
Absolute joke of a season glad it's over. Conf tourney will be a quick exit
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Post by Big D on Mar 3, 2024 15:03:51 GMT -6
I would be almost willing to go out and say that the commitment from Chris Harris itself has almost bought Yak another year. I know the extra owners contract is big, but I really think a local commitment from a player of that caliber does have that much of an impact. In my mind, the only way he gets an extra year is if he significantly improves next year…and I mean significantly…like top 5 in the Valley. And even then, he’s only getting a 1-year extension. To get more than 1 year he needs to show multiple straight years of improvement. 1 player is not enough, especially when he hasn’t shown the ability to hold onto players in the portal era. He needs to completely rebuild this team again next year…again.
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