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Post by Big D on Oct 18, 2017 12:57:19 GMT -6
www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-university-of-illinois-innovation-center-20171018-story.htmlCan someone explain this nonsense to me? There is already a U of I campus in Chicago perfectly capable of assisting with this...why does UIUC need a footprint here, just a stone’s throw away from the UIC campus? This is obviously all about the name. The research center sounds much more powerful when backed by UIUC as opposed to UIC. So if everything is about the name, why not just immediately rename all three schools to the University of Illinois with no distinction between the campuses and immediately the buildings in Chicago belong to a top 10 public school? UIUC is already in the process of diluting our medical program, on top of the many other atrocities they’ve committed against us over the years. Just add another one to the list so that they can be a Chicago school as well. So aggravating. I would hope our Chancellor has something to say about this.
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Post by UICJohn on Oct 22, 2017 20:40:34 GMT -6
I did read that article. And ugh as usual with any UIUC article.
They mentioned two other schools that would be part of the project and I saw Northwestern's name and U of Chicago but not sure if they're the schools.
Of course. Let's open up something like that in Chicago for a school 2+ hours away.
I hate the University of Illinois system so much.
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Post by Chuck A on Oct 23, 2017 4:38:02 GMT -6
They make me puke!
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Post by insideuic on Oct 25, 2017 22:02:25 GMT -6
Oh, it gets more irritating. The U of I president gave UIC some lip service in the public announcement, but then Crain's Chicago followed up with this article, www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20171019/BLOGS11/171019824/that-u-of-i-satellite-campus-plan-is-very-much-a-work-in-progress, Where BOARD OF TRUSTEE MEMBER, Don Edwards said: "Since the very day I moved to Chicago 20 years ago, I have believed deeply that the University of Illinois needed to build a stronger relationship with the city of Chicago—not the UIC campus but our Urbana-Champaign campus, and the capabilities and rich history of innovation that resides there." Nice choice of words, Don. I'm upset as an alumnus and a member of the staff. The board is so plainly invested in Urbana's prominence - whether or not at the expense of UIC - that fall public enrollment announcements were held up -- after normal reporting times --seemingly because UIC was the only system campus that boosted freshmen enrollment (to record shattering levels). But we can't make it look like the poor "other" campus is outperforming precious Urbana-Champaign. The sad fact is that BOT members COULD make the case and work toward UIC becoming the obvious second public flagship at Illinois. That would be good for the State, good for Chicago, and good for the "system". But these guys have demonstrated time and again they are simply not interested in anything but the downstate campus. Not only by negligence, but now the point of opening up a cannibalizing satellite campus in UIC's front yard. Christ.
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Post by Big D on Oct 26, 2017 7:23:17 GMT -6
Wow...
No surprise that Edwards is a UIUC grad. The board has been historically made up of UIUC grads only looking out for their alma mater. Couldn’t find his BoT email, but here’s his work email - dedwards@flexpointford.com. President Killeen should be contacted as well. Anytime they go out of their way to say “this doesn't hurt UIC”, they know that is precisely what they’re doing. Edwards manages to verbally insult UIC, which always helps our reputation and public perception, and then says he wants UIUC students to have more access to Chicago internships, which means internships will be taken away from UIC students to dome degree. Hurts the Chicago campus. No question. Some leadership.
This is infuriating. And sadly it just makes me want to not financially support MY school because its hopeless. The money is never going to move us forward to where we should be because leadership can’t get us there.
Hopefully someone comes to their senses before this happens. Doubtful. Rauner would likely have to lose and his replacement would have to clean house.
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Post by insideuic on Oct 26, 2017 17:15:04 GMT -6
No surprise at all. There's usually 1 UIC BOT member, plus a student. On the plus side there was this:
"But Chris Kennedy, a former president of the U of I board of trustees who is seeking the Democratic nomination to challenge Rauner, said, "It's wrong-headed. The University of Illinois already exists in Chicago. UIC is a very special institution. . . .It puts two great institutions at risk. It's a poorly thought out, strategically irrelevant and potentially dangerous decision."
Too bad Kennedy is running 3rd in the polls right now.
If the DPI is truly a system entity, and UIC benefits equally to UIUC, even 30-70, then great! But nothing about the behavior of the BOT historically, nor its members comments, make me believe it is.
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Post by Big D on Nov 21, 2017 9:31:10 GMT -6
I did send an email about this and the BoT wrote back assuring me that UIC is going to play a role in DPI, with UIC professors working there. They said that Don Edwards was misquoted in the article linked to in previous posts...what he actually said was “...not just UIC..,”, which they say makes all the difference. It does make a difference but still...it’s not just what was said but the idea of UIUC expanding into Chicago literally next to UIC’s campus. I’m troubled by this thing. I’m sure UIC will play some role, but it will be minor, and all you have to do is read the numerous articles and watch the video below to see how much of a UIUC feel this actually has. In the video, everyone that spoke had a UIUC connection. The only UIC connection in the entire video was the introduction of Chancellor Amiridis by Pres Killeen as the Chancellor of the University of Chicago, and the pointing out of the UIC campus right behind the site where this travesty is going to be built. I wonder if DPI will be built tall enough to cast a shadow on UIC’s campus. The feel is that DPI will be a UIUC extension that will allow its engineering to closely integrate with Chicago business and allow its students easier access to Chicago internships. They will probably throw UIC a bone so as to not completely lose face and give them a couple professor slots and a small percentage of student slots. Either way, from all the media, only one U of I campus will be getting all the credit and money for the work done at DPI...and it won’t be UIC, I can guarantee you that. I still encourage everyone to let the BoT know how you feel...unless you think it’s a good thing...you can keep that to yourself youtu.be/h7o9zhYEtc8
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Post by uicc79 on Nov 21, 2017 10:27:17 GMT -6
Did he refer to Amiridis as the Chancellor of the University of Chicago, or is that a typo in your post?
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Post by Big D on Nov 21, 2017 11:16:33 GMT -6
Did he refer to Amiridis as the Chancellor of the University of Chicago, or is that a typo in your post? Check the 17-minute mark of the video I linked in my previous post. He did in fact call Amiridis the Chancellor of the U of C...and then caught himself.
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Post by Big D on May 24, 2018 20:48:59 GMT -6
Another classic quote from Gov Rauner in mid-April... capitolfax.com/2018/04/19/no-rauner-didnt-forget-about-uic-yesterday/I still don’t understand this stupid thing. I guess UIUC knows that a long term future in Urbana-Champaign puts it at a disadvantage, especially to UIC. So they’re simply trying to get out of that pigeon hole farm town and spread out to become an all-state university. Is this dolt going to be voted out or what? Hopefully DPI dies with his political career.
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Post by Big D on May 30, 2018 7:01:29 GMT -6
Thought this article was somewhat related to our situation. Props to SIUE for not accepting the status quo. I can guarantee you UIC is not being treated fairly. And perhaps this is why UIUC wants to expand to places like Chicago...so it doesn’t one day find itself like SIUC, with fewer and fewer wanting to live in Urbana-Champaign for 4-5 years. No sign of that happening now, but they’re protecting themselves in case it happens. www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-southern-illinois-university-campuses-20180508-story.html
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Post by uicc79 on Jun 1, 2018 15:31:05 GMT -6
The article you referenced makes mention of the relative sizes of the operating budgets for each SIU campus, as one of the reasons for SIUE to get additional funding. I realize that it's somewhat like comparing apples to oranges, but in the recently mailed out "Impact Illinois 2018 Annual Report", it's noted that UIC actually has a larger operating budget, at $3.2 billion, than does UIUC, at $2.9 billion. That's not a recent development, it's actually been that way for a number of years. Obviously, it's because of the UI hospital and all of the health science colleges that are administered by UIC. But the point is, if you asked UIUC graduates which is the larger campus, based on size of respective operating budgets, I'd bet 99% would say UIUC, because after all, UIC is "just a small regional campus". I always find that the people who know the least about the entire U of I system, as a whole, are the UIUC people. They just cannot see the entire U of I system, or acknowledge anything beyond the UIUC campus.
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Post by Big D on Aug 28, 2018 7:37:17 GMT -6
A recent article on DPI...this thing makes me sick to my stomach. That we are allowing and paying for UIUC to use UIC’s backyard because their own hometown puts them at a disadvantage is a travesty. I wish more people cared about thus. I guarantee you UIC was given the John Marshall consolation prize for pretending they don’t care about the UIUC invasion. This will be just one more reason to make a top engineering student choose UIUC over UIC. Before DPI, location is a factor...not anymore. www.chicagobusiness.com/john-pletz-technology/senators-want-answers-rauners-proposed-south-loop-tech-campus
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Post by insideuic on Sept 1, 2018 7:55:25 GMT -6
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Post by Big D on Sept 1, 2018 8:14:39 GMT -6
If I’m understanding this correctly, we’re getting under 100 million of the DPI money, but still better than nothing. Always nice to see UIC growing, but, geez...this DPI must really be bad for UIC considering the payoff of a law school (which is probably going to be hand-tied so as to not hurt UIUC in any way), a new drug research building, a new computer science building, and an expanded innovation center. Here’s another link - emails.uofi.uillinois.edu/newsletter/182335.html
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